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sean
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: North Devon

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 05 9:40 am Post subject:

Behemoth wrote:

When they first floated this a big developer said they could do it but the houses would be uninspiring rows of 'barrack like terraces' with a basic fit. i.e. no corners

Igloos?

Jonnyboy

Joined: 29 Oct 2004
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Location: under some rain.

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 05 9:46 am Post subject:

Behemoth wrote:

Jonnyboy wrote:

I'm not sure that ï¿½60k is a tough enough target. A volume builder should be able to do that quite easily.

When they first floated this a big developer said they could do it but the houses would be uninspiring rows of 'barrack like terraces' with a basic fit. i.e. no corners or fancy windows etc. How this differs from the acres of uninspiring 'luxury' detached I don't know.

There is an element to that but design isn't just about cost. Our house is designed to be a quick and cheap(ish) construction, the dormers certainly add to the cost but not hugely, there is no real difference to the cost of plastering inside but they make for a more interesting internal room shape in what is admittedly a square house.

Behemoth

Joined: 01 Dec 2004
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Location: Leeds

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 05 9:48 am Post subject:
Exactly - I think it showed a lack of imagination on the part of the developer rather than insurmountable problems.

Andy B

Joined: 12 Jan 2005
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Location: Brum

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 05 11:57 am Post subject:

Wont it seriously devalue the current market if they build loads putting a lot of people at risk of negative equity, or will investors buy them hold onto them for a while, sidestepping any quick buck routes and then make a killing further down the line. And why do we need masses more houses when the population is fairly static with an increasing number of OAP's whos numbers will start declining anyway? Then we will have more houses then we need and even more problems for the housing market.

Northern_Lad

Joined: 13 Dec 2004
Posts: 14210
Location: Somewhere

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 05 12:15 pm Post subject:
The population is fairly static (if not shrinking), but the demographics are changing. More people are now living by themselves, families are getting smaller (less children), more OAPs living in their own homes. Add to this the fact that people want to live in bigger and bigger houses now.

tawny owl

Joined: 29 Apr 2005
Posts: 563
Location: Hampshire

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 05 1:51 pm Post subject:

Andy B wrote:

The only people it might affect are those people who have bought up lots of houses to let - they may well find they won't have the people to rent, and personally, I don't think that's a bad thing. I read somewhere about some couple who had over 400 houses, and as they were buying a house every month and that was a while ago, it's probably up to 500 now. I think should be stopped; I've no objection to someone owning another house, or even a few, but housing stock isn't like shoes; you can't just go out and buy a cheaper one if you don't like what's available, and depriving nearly 500 people of the chance to buy their own houses I think is immoral (Rant). In addition, as the price goes up (because there are fewer houses available), more people are forced into renting, thus rents go up, making it even more attractive to buy to let, thus cutting the number of houses more, and so on. Having rent protection. like they do in a lot of European countries would help there.

Another thing that would help of course (and clear up some of the congestion) is for corporations and goverment departments to move out of the southeast, so people can work in cheaper areas. There are still plenty of homes in the North that are round about the 60-grand mark. Cutting stamp duty would help as well - houses in Ireland for instance, don't attract any stamp duty for first-time buyers up to about ï¿½250,000, whereas here we're paying it from ï¿½60,000 upwards, and more and more people are caught in that net every year.

Celtic Mike

Joined: 10 Aug 2005
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 05 10:50 am Post subject: ï¿½20,000 Log cabin
Can anyone post a link or URL for a company who sells those ï¿½20,000 log cabins? Sounds veeeery interesting! Cheers

Bernie66

Joined: 14 Jan 2005
Posts: 13967
Location: Eastoft

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 05 9:49 pm Post subject: Re: ï¿½20,000 Log cabin

Celtic Mike wrote:

Can anyone post a link or URL for a company who sells those ï¿½20,000 log cabins? Sounds veeeery interesting!

Cheers

I know Finn Forest do some pretty awesome log cabins

https://www.finnforest.co.uk

Blue Peter

Joined: 21 Mar 2005
Posts: 2400
Location: Milton Keynes

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 05 9:08 am Post subject:

Jonnyboy wrote:

I guess it depends if you include land cost.

I may be wrong, but I have heard that the lucky purchasers of the 60K house get to rent the land, on which their castle is planted, from the government,

Peter.

wellington womble

Joined: 08 Nov 2004
Posts: 15051
Location: East Midlands

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 05 9:10 am Post subject:

When I unearth country smallholding I will - They do have a website, but its pretty basic, and no pictures. Come to think of, I asked for a catalogue - wonder where that went?

Edit: Found it - Scandanavian systems, finlodge houses, based in Edinburgh.

There's a picutre here:

https://www.scottishfield.co.uk/news/fullstory.php/aid/287/Finlodge_1.html

and lots more here, which looks lke SS's website. Ooohh dear.....

https://www.finlodge.me.uk/

Stacey

Joined: 18 Jul 2005
Posts: 8380
Location: Kernow

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 05 9:13 am Post subject:

Are those finlodges practical for year round living and would picky councils have any probelms with them? Living where I do I have zero chance of being able to buy a house and the plan is that when we inherit some cash from our parents we try to find a few acres and stick one of these types of lodges on it. It'll still be pretty hefty pricewise with land with building consent costing in excess of 250k but maybe, just maybe we would have a hope of getting out of rented.

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45669
Location: Essex

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 05 9:18 am Post subject:
Those lodges are designed to withstand cold winters, they do this mainly by insulation so by the same token they should be relatively comfortable in the rare really hot summers we get.

Stacey

Joined: 18 Jul 2005
Posts: 8380
Location: Kernow

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 05 9:43 am Post subject:
Our Cornish winters aren't particularly cold anyway. The council are a nightmare though. They see something like a lodge or a shed and decide that it can only be for summer residency, to let out to holidaymakers.

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45669
Location: Essex

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 05 9:44 am Post subject:
That's going to be the bigger part of your problem.

wellington womble

Joined: 08 Nov 2004
Posts: 15051
Location: East Midlands

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 05 10:07 am Post subject:

stacey_guthrie wrote:

it says they comply with building regs, so planning permission would be your only obstacle (only - huh!)

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