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Behemoth
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 Posted: Fri Dec 17, 04 10:42 am Post subject: Agricultural reform - a chance to become a farmer? |
 
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In and article inthe Yorkshire Post yesterday the agriculture editor was bemoaning the fact that new Single Payment Scheme would in effect give small farm farmers and annual income of aprox �12 to �15k without them having to do anything and as their margins were so tight they could spend a lot of effort farming all year round for not much more income. The end result, he thought, was that they'd not bother, food production would go down, imports would go up and they might sell up and work elsewhere, reducing the agricultural labour force and skill base of the country, the land would go fallow and be set aside. All doom and gloom.
However, for the aspiring 'donwsizer' this caught my attention. One of the major problems of down sizing is 'where do you get your income from' to pay your bills etc and have the time to persue your dream. If you accept that you are not going to make a profit and all farming will be to support yourself, with maybe the sale of some of the suprlus, and your partner worked, this would seem to give an adequate income to give you the security to make the leap from desk to field.
I'm sure there are all sorts of reasons why this is not possible, does anybody else have any more info or ideas about this?
There's reams on the DEFRA website but before ploughing through it I'd thought I'd ask first.
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tahir
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Behemoth
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tahir
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Behemoth
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I don't think it will help - you have to be a farmer and register by the spring and you can only claim the entitlement on land if you are farmer when you buy it (?????) unless by buying the farm you become a farmer (?????)
Think that's it but you can check the DEFRA website for more info
"Sale or purchase of land up to 16 May 2005
If you buy or sell all or part of a holding up to 16 May 2005, the reference amount on this land will not transfer automatically.
However, you can include a clause in the sales contract that stipulates that you are also buying or selling the corresponding
reference amount. This is known as a private contract clause.
If you have already bought or sold all or part of a holding, without stipulating that you are also buying or selling the corresponding reference amount, you can still amend the details of the contract to
arrange for the reference amount to be bought or sold. However, both the buyer and seller must agree to this amendment.
To transfer the reference amount using a private contract clause:
� The seller, or the buyer with the permission of the seller, will apply to the SPS to establish entitlements. The reference amount will then be passed to the buyer, to be included in the calculation of their entitlements.
� Both the buyer and seller must include a copy of the sales contract with their application form.
� Both the buyer and the seller must be farmers, within the terms of the regulations, on the date they apply to the SPS.
Under current regulations, you can use a private contract clause only when land is sold, not when it is leased. |
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tahir
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alison
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jema
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| Behemoth wrote: |
I don't think it will help - you have to be a farmer and register by the spring and you can only claim the entitlement on land if you are farmer when you buy it (?????) unless by buying the farm you become a farmer (?????)
Think that's it but you can check the DEFRA website for more info
"Sale or purchase of land up to 16 May 2005
If you buy or sell all or part of a holding up to 16 May 2005, the reference amount on this land will not transfer automatically.
However, you can include a clause in the sales contract that stipulates that you are also buying or selling the corresponding
reference amount. This is known as a private contract clause.
If you have already bought or sold all or part of a holding, without stipulating that you are also buying or selling the corresponding reference amount, you can still amend the details of the contract to
arrange for the reference amount to be bought or sold. However, both the buyer and seller must agree to this amendment.
To transfer the reference amount using a private contract clause:
� The seller, or the buyer with the permission of the seller, will apply to the SPS to establish entitlements. The reference amount will then be passed to the buyer, to be included in the calculation of their entitlements.
� Both the buyer and seller must include a copy of the sales contract with their application form.
� Both the buyer and the seller must be farmers, within the terms of the regulations, on the date they apply to the SPS.
Under current regulations, you can use a private contract clause only when land is sold, not when it is leased. |
  Not exactly approved by the plain English Society is it
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