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Greenfoot

Joined: 04 Dec 2007
Posts: 324
Location: The veggie plot or getting stones

Posted: Sun Sep 12, 10 4:53 pm Post subject:
I would rather become a vegetarian before eating such cuts of meat.

Lloyd

Joined: 24 Jan 2005
Posts: 2699

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 10 12:39 pm Post subject:
It's an interesting point raised about not eating carnivores. I think most people or maybe whole societies seem to share this view to some degree. In Britain, how many carnivorous species are commonly eaten? Not many, apart from fish of course.

Jb

Joined: 08 Jun 2005
Posts: 7761
Location: 91� N

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 10 12:41 pm Post subject:

Greenfoot wrote:

I would rather become a vegetarian before eating such cuts of meat.

Why? Surely if that's true you should already be a vegetarian? They might not make great meals but ethically there should be no difference between eat cat or beef or fox or pork?

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Jb

Joined: 08 Jun 2005
Posts: 7761
Location: 91� N

Posted: Mon Sep 13, 10 12:42 pm Post subject:

Behemoth wrote:

Just because you can doesn't mean you have to.

I can't imagine a stringy old cat would make a great meal ...

Probably OK for stock though?

Shane

Joined: 31 Oct 2005
Posts: 3467
Location: Doha. Is hot.

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 10 8:39 am Post subject:

boisdevie1 wrote:

Apparently in Paris in WW2 cat was regularly eaten although people preferred to think of it as rabbit.

They called them roof rabbits in Alsace - the wife's grandparents used to tell the same story.

Bodger

Joined: 23 May 2006
Posts: 13524

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 10 10:36 am Post subject:

Roof rabbit ?
Many people ate cat during the second world war, in the belief that they were eating rabbit. Some wise people insisted that kidneys were left in situ on any rabbit that they purchased. Apparently the position of the kidneys was a dead give away. In one species, the kidneys are directly opposite, while in the other, they were off set. I can't remember which was said to be which, so consequently, I always catch my own rabbits and therby, avoid eating cat.

pricey

Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Posts: 6444

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 10 4:14 pm Post subject:
Cat is orrible Would never eat it again, but Dog is good, very good.

matt_hooks

Joined: 01 Aug 2010
Posts: 312
Location: Lambourn(ish) Berkshire

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 10 8:16 pm Post subject:
Hmmm, I just ran over a fox (quite deliberate, they are a huge pest with the chickens round here, the farmer will thank me) and am now considering going back and picking it up! I've eaten just about every other species it's legal to shoot in the UK, certainly mammal wise and most of the birds too, but for some reason it didn't occur to me to bring the fox carcass home, I have no idea why!

Behemoth

Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 19023
Location: Leeds

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 10 8:53 pm Post subject:
In Vietnam I was playing table football in the street with a german bloke when the cafe owner brought a dog out from the back, got to the gutter, gave it a few swift blows with a mallet, too many for comfort, and then after a bit of bleeding dragged the corpse back inside. Never thought of eating dog after that. Probably unknowingly have though.

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 10 8:57 pm Post subject:

matt_hooks wrote:

Hmmm, I just ran over a fox (quite deliberate, they are a huge pest with the chickens round here, the farmer will thank me) and am now considering going back and picking it up! I've eaten just about every other species it's legal to shoot in the UK, certainly mammal wise and most of the birds too, but for some reason it didn't occur to me to bring the fox carcass home, I have no idea why!

I hope you made sure it was dead - I found one that had been run over a couple of years ago. It couldn't move it's back legs but was dragging it's body across the road as I went back to the Landrover for a shovel - it was pretty grim, even though they are a pest.

matt_hooks

Joined: 01 Aug 2010
Posts: 312
Location: Lambourn(ish) Berkshire

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 10 9:22 pm Post subject:

Rob R wrote:

I hope you made sure it was dead

But of course. I reversed and ran over it's skull with 2 1/2 tonnes of jeep, trust me, it was dead! Nevertheless I did get out to check and all life signs were extinct, if not the trusty wheelbrace would have been employed.

Normally I would have done my utmost to avoid hitting it, but I know that the farmer here loses a lot of chickens and turkeys to them, and is always keen for me to go out and shoot them, so I figured I'd take the opportunity when it was offered. It was a BIG dog fox, and he was in cracking condition, obviously been feeding well! In many ways it's a shame to kill them, but I know if I don't do it quickly and humanely there are people around here who will use baited rabbits and nasty snares, which risk injuring/killing peoples pet dogs, or leaving a fox to die a slow lingering death. I know if it came to it I'd prefer a bullet in the brain (or possiby a jeep to the skull) to a snare or poison!

I had to stop and wring a bunnies neck the other day, just like your fox, it was scrabbling around with it's front legs, it's rear end was completely paralysed. I left that on the side of the road too, and when I came back later to pick it up for dogfood it had gone, I'm assuming foxy had it!

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 31902
Location: York

Posted: Wed Sep 15, 10 9:41 pm Post subject:
Good

matt_hooks

Joined: 01 Aug 2010
Posts: 312
Location: Lambourn(ish) Berkshire

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 10 2:16 pm Post subject:

Hmmm, went back this morning to look at it and maybe pick it up, and it's gone. Now this is a country road, private so the council won't have picked it up, and it was well to the side of the road so no reason for it to be moved, so maybe someone else had the same idea?

If I'd not got out and checked I might have thought that I hadn't killed it properly, but live things don't leak brains like that!

Hill farmer

Joined: 08 Feb 2009
Posts: 49
Location: North Oxfordshire

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 10 2:19 pm Post subject:
If he was to eat his cat thats a choice for him. Before he does I would ask him to consider what his cat died of ?

Shane

Joined: 31 Oct 2005
Posts: 3467
Location: Doha. Is hot.

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 10 4:16 am Post subject:

Behemoth wrote:

In Vietnam I was playing table football in the street with a german bloke when the cafe owner brought a dog out from the back, got to the gutter, gave it a few swift blows with a mallet, too many for comfort, and then after a bit of bleeding dragged the corpse back inside. Never thought of eating dog after that. Probably unknowingly have though.

I had the same in India - was sitting in a roadside bar enjoying an after-work beer with a couple of colleagues when a goat got walked into the butcher's opposite and processed in front of us.

Didn't put me of the goat curries, though. Mind you, they were exceptionally good

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