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Cathryn

Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Posts: 19862
Location: Ceredigion

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 15 3:44 pm Post subject: plaster

I was wondering about where to put this - but major projects unfortunately fits. I think a lot of the plaster in the house has had it. Bits and pieces of cornices are falling off as the walls dry out and where we have had radiators taken off the walls there are little trails of plaster, some of which looks a bit like it's lime and hair. There's nothing much we can do is there, apart from either board it over or totally remove it and re-plaster?

It's late 1700 and Victorian. The interior is being dragged into the 21st century and the exterior for that matter.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 43741
Location: yes

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 15 3:54 pm Post subject:
big subject a mix of mend and replace will probably be best mouldings are a specialist sub category but quite a lot of old plaster can be saved and mended or easily replaced

vegplot

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 21301
Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 15 3:59 pm Post subject:
Open your house as a host for restoration apprenticeships specialising in lime renders. One room at a time.

Cathryn

Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Posts: 19862
Location: Ceredigion

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 15 4:23 pm Post subject:

Currently every room apart from the sitting room has floors up, carpets peeled back, bit's of copper piping and stuff everywhere. We cannot get into our bedroom because of the scaffolding in it. What it doesn't have and should have is the sound of hammering and drilling.

What I want to do is lock the door against everyone. I can't though because the frame had to be removed to let some large bits of boiler in.

I do not like your suggestion Vegplot! (But I'll give you the secret password if you want to come and visit with or without bags of lime.)

Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 15464
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 15 5:28 pm Post subject:
You could take a mould off the mouldings with... erm... silicone? latex? Shouldn't be too difficult... (he says confidently).

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 43741
Location: yes

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 15 5:36 pm Post subject:

Hairyloon wrote:

You could take a mould off the mouldings with... erm... silicone? latex?
Shouldn't be too difficult... (he says confidently).

yep sort of
a few hundred quid for the first metre and a fifth of that price per metre once the mould is made is a good estimate

Behemoth

Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 19023
Location: Leeds

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 15 5:39 pm Post subject:
I've always been surprised how relatively cheap plaster moulding is for the impact it has on the finish of a room.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 43741
Location: yes

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 15 5:56 pm Post subject:
from existing moulds that are similar to what you need to replace is at per metre length price long term it seems a bargain .

Behemoth

Joined: 01 Dec 2004
Posts: 19023
Location: Leeds

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 15 6:17 pm Post subject:
And many suppliers hold the typical patterns of different periods. already.

Cathryn

Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Posts: 19862
Location: Ceredigion

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 15 7:23 pm Post subject:
I've noticed that. The mouldings in the house are all different, deep but uncomplicated. We might be able to replace missing bits.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 43741
Location: yes

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 15 4:09 pm Post subject:

Behemoth wrote:

And many suppliers hold the typical patterns of different periods. already.

the chaps i used in london had original moulds going back to queen anne's time as well as being able to make new from old.a making shed and lots and lots of box moulds .

a slight aside is wood mouldings can be matched as well if needs be.

Colin & Jan

Joined: 03 Mar 2006
Posts: 203
Location: Dover, Kent

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 15 11:27 am Post subject:
Many years ago in the long and distance past I helped a carpenter who must have been 75+ years of age. We repaired some very ornate ceiling to wall cornice. He had made the template out of wood, which was used to slide along the wet plaster-of-Paris to make the cornice. Long and tortuous but a lovely job when finished. One of the 'old-style' craftsmen.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 43741
Location: yes

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 15 11:42 am Post subject:
that is the way to make em tis far above diy or most trades skills. in a long term /major restoration it could be considered a reasonable expense to repair or replace good mouldings

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