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Hairyloon
Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Posts: 15425 Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
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Posted: Mon Oct 28, 19 2:31 am Post subject: A poor workman... |
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Blames his tools they say.
But if he is poor, then he may have bought crap tools and be right to blame them.
This is how it is with me at the moment.
Years ago I had quite a good welding kit, but it got stolen. I had not been using it much so I did not get unduly upset.
More recently (though a fair while ago), during a lean period, I was moved to buy a cheap & nasty gasless MIG. It did the job I required of it well enough.
Today I had cause to do some welding so I pulled out the welder and was not entirely surprised to find that it was not working at all well for a lot of the time, although the occasional stint where it was fine.
Mainly the problem was the wire not feeding like it should.
Nonetheless, I was reminded that if you're not doing it upside down, in a crap space or the pissing rain then it is actually quite nice work, and perhaps I should get back into it.
The dilemma then is on whether to this fix up this kit or to chuck it out and get a better one, or both...
And if to get a new one, then how to choose which? |
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Mistress Rose
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Slim
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Hairyloon
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dpack
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Hairyloon
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Ty Gwyn
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Hairyloon
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Ty Gwyn
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Hairyloon
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jema Downsizer Moderator
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 28237 Location: escaped from Swindon
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Slim
Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Posts: 6612 Location: New England (In the US of A)
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 19 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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I'd say the cheap and hardly functional ranging to adequate is a spectrum more than a distinct grouping. I'd also submit that "no substitute for the right tool" is perhaps on a different axis than that first spectrum, as the right tool that does the job better than what you're trying to use can be inexpensive, moderately priced, or expensive, either way it's what will do the job better or best.
Tools I'd love but can't possibly afford may overlap with "the right tool" at times, but may also be in their own universe, as sometimes you really don't need that specialized tool when a ________ suffices, or it would be an absolute joy to use but you don't really need it or won't use it often, or should just rent it, or you could buy three less expensive versions for the same cost.... |
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dpack
Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 46233 Location: yes
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Hairyloon
Joined: 20 Nov 2008 Posts: 15425 Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.
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Posted: Tue Oct 29, 19 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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jema wrote: |
Cheap shit that can't handle anything. Well you can't always tell in advance, but hey let the returns department deal with that. |
It seems to me that most stuff comes in two categories.
Stuff made in China, that some company has imported and put their name on.
Stuff made in China that you buy from a company in China.
Stuff in the first category is subject to some quality control and often comes a lot more expensive.
Stuff in the second carries a bit of a risk, but if you buy through some agency that offers some buyer protection, and test it thoroughly straight away, then the risk is minimised.
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Adequate and there really is no substitute for the right tools. If it needs a router, just what else are you going to use? Time is also money and the right tools vastly speed up diy. |
My attitude is that if it is something new (to me) and I don't know how useful it is going to be, then get a cheap one.
Even if it's crap, you can usually get a good suss of how useful a good one would be and if you break it in the process, then take it back to the shop...
Sometimes the cheap one is perfectly adequate. |
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dpack
Joined: 02 Jul 2005 Posts: 46233 Location: yes
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