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tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: Essex

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 20 8:54 am Post subject: 2 Months Coal Free!
Excellent news: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-52973089 I still don't understand how Drax can be almost carbon neutral burning wood pellets from the US though....

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 4613
Location: Lampeter

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 20 11:35 am Post subject:
Considering we have had the warmest,driest 2 mths in our lifetimes its hardly a shock coal has not been needed. And as for Drax being almost carbon neutral,that takes a bit of swallowing.

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45676
Location: Essex

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 20 11:40 am Post subject:

Ty Gwyn wrote:

Considering we have had the warmest,driest 2 mths in our lifetimes its hardly a shock coal has not been needed.

True, but the amount of generation through real renewables (hydro, wind and solar) has been great. Hope it can continue.

Biomass is crazy, especially when you're importing the hugely bulky and calorie poor biomass to burn.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46246
Location: yes

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 20 11:58 am Post subject:

tahir wrote:

Ty Gwyn wrote:

Considering we have had the warmest,driest 2 mths in our lifetimes its hardly a shock coal has not been needed.

yes yes and yes

it is probably better than when they tried adding a few percent petcoke to the coal they were using at the time

Molybdenum and hypocurosis seemed to be a rather delicate subject

Jonnyboy

Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 23956
Location: under some rain.

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 20 1:33 pm Post subject:

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2 Months Coal Free!

does that include delivery?

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45676
Location: Essex

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 20 1:48 pm Post subject:
Tit!

buzzy

Joined: 04 Jan 2011
Posts: 3708
Location: In a small wood on the edge of the Huntingdonshire Wolds

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 20 3:52 pm Post subject:
I must say that when I read the title of the thread I was thinking "Another advert. But I don't burn coal anymore. Blooming energy suppliers!" Henry

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46246
Location: yes

Posted: Tue Jun 09, 20 8:22 pm Post subject:

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 15996

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 20 7:44 am Post subject:

I agree with Ty Gwyn on that. It makes very little sense to import huge amounts of biomass from the US, but it has skewed the timber industry badly these days.

The plus is that at least this stuff is coming in in pellet form. The original idea was that it came in as chips or whole wood for chipping, but the Forestry Commission were very concerned that would import all sorts of pests and diseases from the US.

Currently, the biomass market is paying silly prices for timber for use in power stations and this is good if you are in the wholesale timber market, but not so good if you are a small scale firewood seller. So far, we have been all right, but if that plus the new legislation that says we not only have to sell only wood with less than 20% moisture content (buyer can then soak it in rain, water butt etc. to their own taste) and pay for the privilege of proving it is dry by joining a 'proof' scheme, we may have to pull out of it. This will upset out customers, but if it is not economic we can't supply.

As the infernal combustion engine is the main use of fossil fuels and cause of pollution, as also shown by the lockdown, this seems a step in the right direction, but rather missing the elephant in the room.

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