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Cathryn

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Posted: Sun May 26, 13 10:23 am Post subject: What is the world coming to
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-22660132 and a few weeks ago someone stole a warehouse of hand made quilts. I thought I had started nice peaceful pursuits. All quilters and beekeepers are nice people aren't they?

Rob R

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: York

Posted: Sun May 26, 13 10:25 am Post subject:
People are people, whatever they do & where there is value, there are criminals.

Lorrainelovesplants

Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Posts: 6521
Location: Dordogne

Posted: Sun May 26, 13 4:35 pm Post subject:
down here the going rate for a nuc of bees is �190. Thats a fairly easy way to make a bit of money if you have the kit and the balls to do it.

Treacodactyl
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Posted: Sun May 26, 13 5:56 pm Post subject:
I thought it was quite common for bee hives to be nicked? How do you guarantee not to be buying a stolen hive, I assume they are not simply sold by a dodgy bloke down the local?

Lorrainelovesplants

Joined: 13 Oct 2006
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Location: Dordogne

Posted: Sun May 26, 13 6:03 pm Post subject:
some people mark their hives - routing on letters or burning into boxes/lids etc with an iron, but no-one marks the actual frames (as far as I know). I can actually see the thing where a bar will padlock the hive onto a solid base - eg a concrete plinth or such..... lot of money in bees & hives.

jamanda
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Posted: Sun May 26, 13 6:14 pm Post subject:

Treacodactyl wrote:

I thought it was quite common for bee hives to be nicked?

How do you guarantee not to be buying a stolen hive, I assume they are not simply sold by a dodgy bloke down the local?

You buy it from somewhere reputable like this

But I think in the case in the OP, it was not the hive that was nicked but the actual frames of bees.

Again- if you buy from your local bee association you can be sure they've raised them themselves. But that probably won't be the cheapest option.

mochasidamo

Joined: 22 Sep 2005
Posts: 615
Location: Montgomery

Posted: Tue May 28, 13 10:59 pm Post subject:

Jamanda wrote:

Again- if you buy from your local bee association you can be sure they've raised them themselves. But that probably won't be the cheapest option.

Except that you will get redress if there's a problem, follow up advice (hopefully) and hopefully healthy, well-bred bees. Local breeders need to keep their reputations...or they stop being recommended. Some associations subsidize beginner nucs too.

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
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Posted: Wed May 29, 13 6:51 am Post subject:

Sadly thefts of hives is not unknown and has been a problem for many years. As for the quilts, well, it has been cold.

I would always recommend going to a reputable supplier, one known to your beekeeping association, because, as you say, they have a reputation to keep up, and people also know them personally. Our association will arrange for beginners to have swarms that have been collected, so a service to the public, and bees for the beginners.

jamanda
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Posted: Wed May 29, 13 9:53 pm Post subject:

mochasidamo wrote:

Jamanda wrote:

Again- if you buy from your local bee association you can be sure they've raised them themselves. But that probably won't be the cheapest option.

Mine was subsidised. But you had to complete the beginner's course. A very sensible way of doing things. You actually raised your own nuc on the course.

MikeM

Joined: 20 Oct 2010
Posts: 76
Location: Devon

Posted: Thu May 30, 13 6:43 am Post subject:

Jamanda wrote:

mochasidamo wrote:

Jamanda wrote:

Again- if you buy from your local bee association you can be sure they've raised them themselves. But that probably won't be the cheapest option.

Mine was subsidised. But you had to complete the beginner's course. A very sensible way of doing things. You actually raised your own nuc on the course.

mind if I ask who you did your course with? I'm thinking of doing a course in Holsworthy iin the new year, but would like to shop around a bit as well.

mochasidamo

Joined: 22 Sep 2005
Posts: 615
Location: Montgomery

Posted: Thu May 30, 13 10:35 pm Post subject:

[quote="MikeM:1343748"]

Jamanda wrote:

mochasidamo wrote:

Jamanda wrote:

Again- if you buy from your local bee association you can be sure they've raised them themselves. But that probably won't be the cheapest option.

Mine was subsidised. But you had to complete the beginner's course. A very sensible way of doing things. You actually raised your own nuc on the course.

Excellent

jamanda
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Posted: Thu May 30, 13 10:48 pm Post subject:

MikeM wrote:

mind if I ask who you did your course with? I'm thinking of doing a course in Holsworthy iin the new year, but would like to shop around a bit as well.

Here.

https://www.northdevonbees.org/

An excellent bunch of people.

MikeM

Joined: 20 Oct 2010
Posts: 76
Location: Devon

Posted: Fri May 31, 13 6:20 am Post subject:
thank you, I shall keep my eye out for when they next have a training course.

alison
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Posted: Fri May 31, 13 11:18 am Post subject:

Jamanda wrote:

MikeM wrote:

mind if I ask who you did your course with? I'm thinking of doing a course in Holsworthy iin the new year, but would like to shop around a bit as well.

Here.

https://www.northdevonbees.org/

An excellent bunch of people.

Seconded.

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