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Northern_Lad

Joined: 13 Dec 2004
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 07 10:38 am Post subject:

bernie-woman wrote:

Jamanda wrote:

Scunthorpe

Walsall

What's Walsall ever done to you? Surely you're past it in 37 seconds, or is it for the times it takes 37 hours to get past?

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 07 10:59 am Post subject:
How much land? And what would be the other requirements?

pricey

Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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Posted: Tue Sep 04, 07 8:48 pm Post subject:
When are you thinking of doing this, November and you can come and stay here, but cant do it before then because of the Holiday Makers, H&S And all that.

Brownbear

Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 07 7:48 am Post subject:
I could manage than, and there. I haven't an air rifle, but have rim fire and centre fire rifles. If someone wants advice on buying an air rifle and sight, I'd be happy to advise and then later set it up as a way of demonstrating the techniques. In fact, I'd be happy to help as many people as wanted to get their sights tuned in, guns set up etc.

whitelegg1

Joined: 05 Apr 2005
Posts: 409
Location: Woodford Green

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 07 9:19 pm Post subject:

Busy schedule allowing, I would happily support this 'event'.

Be very careful talking to gun shop owners about what equipment you need.

From experience, you can get some bad and dangerous advice!!

Airifles:
Spring powered = cheap to run but accuracy suffers more from recoil

PCP (Pre-Chargded Pneumatic) = more expensive to buy and to run, have to refill them from a scuba bottle or pump up by hand(arms like Popeye!!) BUT they can be very very accurate, effectively zero recoil. I can consistently hit a 5p piece from 35 yards.

.22 = usually harder hitting, and for pcp's uses less air per shot so more effecient.

.177 = usually more accurate due to higher velocity and lower weight, giving better ballistics. They have a less pronounced loop to the trajectory.

At the end of the day .22 or .177 from a sensible distance will do the job on rabbits. PROVIDED you hit the right place.
Since you shouldn't be shooting them anywhere other than the brain.....the best is the most accurate you can afford. In my opinion.

The age old problem is getting close enough to the rabbit to actually shoot it!

Pete

P.S. Steer well clear of the Chinese �35 air rifles.......you may get a good one, but I doubt it.....money wasted and if you do use it on a rabbit, you would most likely wound it IF you mangaed to hit it.....

hedgewitch

Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Posts: 5834
Location: Daft wench GHQ

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 07 9:22 pm Post subject:
Birmingham. All of it,. Really - it's dreadful.

whitelegg1

Joined: 05 Apr 2005
Posts: 409
Location: Woodford Green

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 07 10:10 pm Post subject:

pricey wrote:

When are you thinking of doing this, November and you can come and stay here, but cant do it before then because of the Holiday Makers, H&S And all that.

I say this with some incredulity.I'm free every weekend in November

Don't know how long that will last!

Pete

pricey

Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Posts: 6444

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 07 10:56 pm Post subject:

whitelegg1 wrote:

pricey wrote:

When are you thinking of doing this, November and you can come and stay here, but cant do it before then because of the Holiday Makers, H&S And all that.

I say this with some incredulity.I'm free every weekend in November

Don't know how long that will last!

Pete

you can come down any time you like

whitelegg1

Joined: 05 Apr 2005
Posts: 409
Location: Woodford Green

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 07 5:41 am Post subject:
I am touched. Unfortunately, I have been told I can't come down any weekend I'd like to. Only the one's when I'm free Pete (I will take you up on that offer hopefully)

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45708
Location: Essex

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 07 10:36 am Post subject:

pricey wrote:

When are you thinking of doing this, November and you can come and stay here, but cant do it before then because of the Holiday Makers, H&S And all that.

Dunno, so November could be done eh? Worrabout guns? None of us own any.

(Ta v much BTW)

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45708
Location: Essex

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 07 10:39 am Post subject:

whitelegg1 wrote:

At the end of the day .22 or .177 from a sensible distance will do the job on rabbits. PROVIDED you hit the right place.
Since you shouldn't be shooting them anywhere other than the brain.....the best is the most accurate you can afford. In my opinion.

Yeah spoke to a friend who shoots yesterday and he said a .22 rinfire would be better as it wouldn't need such accuracy, a body shot would kill. So dunno what I should be doing really.

Brownbear

Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 07 10:50 am Post subject:
A rimfire is better - with a decent sound mod it's quiet, it's effective with a 40-grain hollow-point projectile rather than an 8-grain pointed one, and a shot to the upper chest at 75 yards is just as deadly as an airgun shot to the head at 20 yards, and a lot easier to achieve.

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45708
Location: Essex

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 07 10:54 am Post subject:

Brownbear wrote:

A rimfire is better - with a decent sound mod it's quiet, it's effective with a 40-grain hollow-point projectile rather than an 8-grain pointed one, and a shot to the upper chest at 75 yards is just as deadly as an airgun shot to the head at 20 yards, and a lot easier to achieve.

Swot he said, only downside being that I need an FAC isn't it?

Is the kit a lot dearer?

Brownbear

Joined: 28 May 2007
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Location: South West

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 07 11:09 am Post subject:

tahir wrote:

Swot he said, only downside being that I need an FAC isn't it?

Is the kit a lot dearer?

Fifty quid for your application, about the same for a cabinet, two references and a letter saying you have permission to shoot somewhere, or if you have your own land no probs.

You can get a good .22 for �200, a superb one for �450, and then say about �150-�300 for a good scope. With an airgun, you're looking at about �400 for a fairly average one. A lot more engineering in an airgun. If it's a precharged one, you've got hassle with pumps and bottles and all. With a rimmy, pop in a magazine and you're away.

Far better in all respects, IMO.

tahir

Joined: 28 Oct 2004
Posts: 45708
Location: Essex

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 07 11:11 am Post subject:
Best thing would be to join a gun club for training would it?

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