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Behemoth

Joined: 01 Dec 2004
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Location: Leeds

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 05 3:16 pm Post subject:
Fuel air explosion - dramatic, effective, but difficult to control and possibly of interest to anti-terrorist agencies. Not to be recomended.

Treacodactyl
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 05 3:45 pm Post subject:
Have a chat to Uncle Ken Livingstone, he hates 'em as well.

footprints

Joined: 26 May 2005
Posts: 234
Location: North Wales

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 05 8:57 pm Post subject: Pidgeons

Behemoth wrote:

Fuel air explosion - dramatic, effective, but difficult to control and possibly of interest to anti-terrorist agencies. Not to be recomended.

Fuelled air burst? I love it. While were on a roll, lets nuke the moles on my garden, and napalm the slugs in the tunnel green house.

Mini gun for the neighbours cats?

ButteryHOLsomeness

Joined: 03 Apr 2005
Posts: 770

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 05 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: Pidgeons

footprints wrote:

Behemoth wrote:

Fuel air explosion - dramatic, effective, but difficult to control and possibly of interest to anti-terrorist agencies. Not to be recomended.

Fuelled air burst? I love it. While were on a roll, lets nuke the moles on my garden, and napalm the slugs in the tunnel green house.

Mini gun for the neighbours cats?

naaahhhhh flamethrower

then it's kitty bbq that night get rid of one problem and solve your 'what's for dinner tonight' problem as well

(((ok don't yell at me, i'd NEVER do that to an animal, just my sick and twisted sense of humour)))

dougal

Joined: 15 Jan 2005
Posts: 7184
Location: South Kent

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 05 9:15 pm Post subject:

Behemoth wrote:

Fuel air explosion - dramatic, effective, but difficult to control and possibly of interest to anti-terrorist agencies. Not to be recomended.

Except possibly to Hunter S Thompson... who would have greatly appreciated such a response to the dread threat of the urban pigeon.
Mind you, he wouldn't have asked before he started shooting...

birdhater
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Posted: Thu Jun 23, 05 9:57 pm Post subject:

thanks for your responses....our initial idea was to install a bird scaring device but the problem is the tree is very tall (>60ft) and not in our garden (the branches overhang). It might be possible to get a ladder this tall and install this but will be difficult.....this is probably the best solution in the long run but this is a last resort....

Assuming we are using a bb gun and shooting directly up (so any shot will go up and come back down in our garden) and just to scare (by hitting leaves rather than birds) then is this still illegal?

We have also seen some inaudible bird scaring devices (i.e. produces scarey noises only heard by birds)....has anybody any experience of these?

failing this....does anybody know Ken Livingstones home number and whether he would object to scaring birds with bb guns/fuel air explosions?

Rikki

Joined: 09 Jun 2005
Posts: 35
Location: Bucks

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 05 8:25 am Post subject:
I have similar problems with both pigeons and tree rats (squirrels) - in that they out compete the other fauna. My bird feeder has a bell of thick wire mesh over the central cylindrical feeder. The holes in the mesh are too small for pigeons and squirrels to get in to the seed. The problem with shooting is that there are so many pigeons in London that any you kill will just get replaced.

Jb

Joined: 08 Jun 2005
Posts: 7761
Location: 91� N

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 05 8:52 am Post subject:
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judith

Joined: 16 Dec 2004
Posts: 22790
Location: Montgomeryshire

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 05 8:54 am Post subject:
Are you on sufficiently good terms with your neighbour for there to be a chance that you could have the offending overhanging branches removed? Then the pigeons would only be able to crap on his side

ButteryHOLsomeness

Joined: 03 Apr 2005
Posts: 770

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 05 9:31 am Post subject:
ROFL brilliant judith, and very practical!

dougal

Joined: 15 Jan 2005
Posts: 7184
Location: South Kent

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 05 10:21 am Post subject:

Judith wrote:

Are you on sufficiently good terms with your neighbour for there to be a chance that you could have the offending overhanging branches removed?
Then the pigeons would only be able to crap on his side

Assuming no tree protection orders or similar, my understanding is that one is legally entitled to cut off any branches overhanging your property - but you should be returning all the offcut branches to your neighbour, they belong to him, so taking them without permission would be theft.
But if that's what you plan to do, a quiet word in advance would do no harm to neighbourly relations...

crackapple

Joined: 19 Jun 2005
Posts: 204
Location: teeside

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 05 10:19 pm Post subject:
Get a dummy bird of prey, something like an owl, and display it in a prominant position. This will deter the skyrats but the downside is it will also scare the nice birds.

judyofthewoods

Joined: 29 Jan 2005
Posts: 804
Location: Pembrokeshire

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 05 10:36 pm Post subject:

Install Ken Livingston in the back yard.

Can you hang your laundry on the other side of the garden? Death sentence seems rather severe for droppings. Not sure I'd want to eat city pidgeon, god knows what they pick up! Not sure if this is true, but I've heard that the pidgeons with deformed feet are poison survivors (presumably the offspring of the poisoned bird), so you could possibly be ingesting it, as it would imply that there are birds about which have eaten poison and survived.

Lloyd

Joined: 24 Jan 2005
Posts: 2699

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 05 9:10 pm Post subject:
The best option must surely be to prevent occurrence rather than deal with the result of the occurrence.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 05 11:42 pm Post subject:
my cat liked them for dinner , aledgedly .i sometimes helped , birds are ok to eat .beware parasites , peel and boil for 30 mins .

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