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OtleyLad

Joined: 13 Jan 2007
Posts: 2737
Location: Otley, West Yorkshire

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 13 4:16 pm Post subject: OMG a whole house re-wire!!!!
Got an email today from someone wanting a complete house re-wire. I never expected my first job to be this big. Its scary. I'm hardly quick and it could take me ages. I sort of imagined small jobs adding outside lights and adding extra sockets. I have to do a quote of course, now there's plenty of scope to get it wrong. Mustn't panic though and it is what I trained for...

jamanda
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Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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Location: Devon

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 13 4:20 pm Post subject:
Doing the whole thing from scratch might be more straight forward than adding on to existing stuff....maybe...

stumbling goat

Joined: 20 Jan 2009
Posts: 1990

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 13 4:41 pm Post subject:
Daunting job on your lonesome ownsome. Do you want a "laddie"? sg

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 13 4:51 pm Post subject:
Are you providing a quote or an estimate? Well done. We recently had a plumber, and it was about his first job. Very slow, but diligent and text book stuff. Over ran by 50%, but didn't charge that much more.

Went

Joined: 19 Mar 2006
Posts: 6968

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 13 4:57 pm Post subject:
Just try and enjoy it - what a great first bit/lot of work.

mousjoos

Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 1986
Location: VERY Sunny SW France

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 13 5:19 pm Post subject:
Good luck & take it as "experience" in doing the job for real Everyone has to start somehere

NorthernMonkeyGirl

Joined: 10 Apr 2011
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Location: Peeping over your shoulder

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 13 5:29 pm Post subject:
Good luck!

MornieG

Joined: 17 Jan 2013
Posts: 933
Location: Bromham, Wiltshire

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 13 5:59 pm Post subject:

Good luck, hope you get the job.

You could try costing on a day rate plus materials. You buy the materials the customer pays for them straight away up front at cost plus 10%( to cover the fact you had to get them in the first place ) a good deal for them and you are covered for your outlay. Then a fair day rate payable weekly with an estimate of the time eg 14 - 18 days. Any additional works to be costed and agreed with the client before work commences.

Mo.XX

Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 15425
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 13 6:34 pm Post subject:

stumbling goat wrote:

Daunting job on your lonesome ownsome. Do you want a "laddie"?

May not be a bad idea.

OtleyLad

Joined: 13 Jan 2007
Posts: 2737
Location: Otley, West Yorkshire

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 13 6:45 pm Post subject:

Hairyloon wrote:

stumbling goat wrote:

Daunting job on your lonesome ownsome. Do you want a "laddie"?

May not be a bad idea.

Its a thought. But I don't know anyone and whereas I can pay myself 50p an hour if something takes me much longer than anticipated, I couldn't do that to anyone else.

I'm going to see the place monday evening to get a sense of the currant state of it. Hope its not really pristine and spotless...

arvo

Joined: 04 Dec 2006
Posts: 3321
Location: Somerset

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 13 7:07 pm Post subject:

1)Re: materiels. Now is a really good time to strike up a deal with a local leccy wholesalers (City Electrical, ScrewFix, Newey and Ayre whoever your local is) if you haven't already. Go into all of them and find out what discount and what invoice terms they'll do you. Worth half a days effort. You should be looking for 25/30 pc. You can decide how much of that to pass on. For this first job, I'd use that to give you some wiggle room because there'll be loads of stuff you'll need that you've not thought of first up.

2) Find out what kind of time scale they're looking to get it done in and what level of mess they're expecting (do they need to live there while you work, or will it be a building site).

3) Lastly, I would a reliable local back-up to check your stuff. You might also consider hiring a reliable/cheerful second year C&G college kid to help you pull cables/ do fishing.

4) Factor in that you might need to be buying kit/tools for this job (Megas, SDS drills, fishing kits, floorboard saws etc).

5) Good luck mate. Sounds great.

All the best

Arvo

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8443
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 13 7:34 pm Post subject:

Dont under estimate how long it takes to do all the chasing out if any is needed. Get them to arrange (and pay for) the making good after first fix.

Cost the cabling in multipuls of full rolls for all the common stuff (1mm 1.5mm & 2.5mm) the rest work out the length & add 10%.

Put in the quote that all cables removed become your property. Over a year its a nice � bonus.

Collect all the offcuts of the new cables too. You would be amazed just how much gets cut off as part of the second fix.

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 13 7:36 pm Post subject:

RichardW wrote:

Put in the quote that all cables removed become your property. Over a year its a nice � bonus.

Collect all the offcuts of the new cables too. You would be amazed just how much gets cut off as part of the second fix.

Perhaps word this as you agree to remove all electrical waste, so it looks like a good service you're offering, rather than being a pikey

MornieG

Joined: 17 Jan 2013
Posts: 933
Location: Bromham, Wiltshire

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 13 8:33 pm Post subject:

Nick wrote:

RichardW wrote:

Perhaps word this as you agree to remove all electrical waste, so it looks like a good service you're offering, rather than being a pikey

That's how a friend of mine got his ' New ' kitchen units LOL

Mo.XX

vegplot

Joined: 19 Apr 2007
Posts: 21301
Location: Bethesda, Gwynedd

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 13 8:56 pm Post subject:
Here's hoping they pay you promptly.

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