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Mutton

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 16 11:15 am Post subject: trellis thing for excluding cats?
I've seen a plastic folding trellis thing for putting in car windows to stop the dog getting out of a part opened window. Tried looking for a bigger version - so it could be possible to have a patio door part open and put something in the gap to stop cats coming through. Does it exist? Last edited by Mutton on Thu Apr 14, 16 8:56 pm; edited 1 time in total

sean
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 16 11:39 am Post subject:
I've never seen one. If they're sliding doors could you make something from a bit of wood and chicken wire? A rectangle the height of the door wouldn't use much in the way of materials and would be held in place by the door so it wouldn't need to be particularly strong/rigid in its own right.

Mutton

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 16 12:07 pm Post subject:
Thanks. Was hoping for off the shelf. It is something we could make, but there is a bit of a back-log on jobs.........

Slim

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 16 1:12 pm Post subject:
I thought that's what the screen door is for? (as to whether a cat thinks it's enough of a barrier is open for debate) I've only ever seen inserts for sliding doors that are solid except for a cat door to let the cat in and out. Other than that people seem to use baby gates which cats just hop over

gregotyn

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 16 1:39 pm Post subject:
What sort of size are you after?. I would assume you want small holes to stop the cat getting through. If it has to be beautiful then not easy, but a fixed size is fairly simple as you make a frame and fill it with criss-cross lattice work or easier is chicken wire. It would have to be a size to fill the gap you want as cats are star climbers, and a gap at the top is an invite in to a cat!

wellington womble

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 16 6:11 pm Post subject:
You don't really get screen doors over here. Goodness knows why, we have enough insects.

Slim

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 16 6:19 pm Post subject:

wellington womble wrote:

You don't really get screen doors over here. Goodness knows why, we have enough insects.

This is fascinating to me. Why wouldn't you have screen doors? Do you have screens in your windows?

Slim

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 16 6:21 pm Post subject:
I always thought that this phenomenon was one of the archetypes of cat ownership https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/d2/8d/e6/d28de645294bbb53b60788c3bc3c2ddf.jpg

sean
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 16 6:53 pm Post subject:

Slim wrote:

wellington womble wrote:

You don't really get screen doors over here. Goodness knows why, we have enough insects.

This is fascinating to me. Why wouldn't you have screen doors? Do you have screens in your windows?

Cerrtainly not.

wellington womble

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 16 6:57 pm Post subject:
Nope. It's just not done here. I've no idea why. It's not like we don't have insects. My caravan has window screens and a screen door. I think they are brilliant, and my next house is having both. But most Brits have never come across them.

Mutton

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 16 8:55 pm Post subject:

My guess would be that
a) The summers are shorter and often cooler
b) Most windows open outwards.
c) British house building is conservative and always does things the same way

I've fancied shutters on a house - for winter warmth apart from anything else - but would have to re-do every window to open inwards. ANd then we couldn't have house plants on the window sill.

We could make a frame - as in we have the skills - just not the time. To expand a little - its not for us, its for someone who doesn't like cats and has no DIY skills.

We have wall to wall cats - well, four cats - seems like wall to wall, and up the wall.

@ Slim - so that is a cat hanging on a screen door? Do they climb up there? Or jump? or is that a whoopsie and it is stuck?

wellington womble

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 16 10:12 pm Post subject:
I'm going to have inside shutters when I get round to it. They come up on fleabay quite often, but I have very oddly sized windows.

Slim

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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 16 10:48 pm Post subject:

That photo isn't mine, though I could recreate it this summer with my big fat orange tabby

Mutton wrote:

@ Slim - so that is a cat hanging on a screen door? Do they climb up there?

Yes

Mutton wrote:

Or jump?

Yes

Mutton wrote:

or is that a whoopsie and it is stuck?

Yes

Some cats climb up screens because they want to let you know that they'd like to be on the other side of it, and some just like to hang out and look at what's going on outside. Sometimes their claws get a little stuck. It's less cute when the cats get larger and start ripping through nylon screens. I added hardware cloth to the inside of my neighbor's screen door because their cat was ripping through the nylon screen.

I think most American windows are double hung so you just slide the window up and it makes sense to have a screen in place.

Shutters are pretty much exclusively ornamental here. Can someone elaborate how they help with energy savings? Is it any more than good curtains would?

wellington womble

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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 16 12:16 am Post subject:
No idea, I just like them. Would you really need to change the windows? Would you ever want the windows open and the shutters shut?

Slim

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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 16 12:28 am Post subject:

wellington womble wrote:

No idea, I just like them.

Would you really need to change the windows? Would you ever want the windows open and the shutters shut?

But can you open the windows to open the shutters if they're already shut?

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